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01/22/2015 08:00 AM House STATE AFFAIRS


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08:09:16 AM Overview(s): Department of Public Safety
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                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
             HOUSE STATE AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                           
                        January 22, 2015                                                                                        
                           8:04 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Bob Lynn, Chair                                                                                                  
Representative Wes Keller, Vice Chair                                                                                           
Representative David Talerico                                                                                                   
Representative Liz Vazquez                                                                                                      
Representative Louise Stutes                                                                                                    
Representative Max Gruenberg                                                                                                    
Representative Jonathan Kreiss-Tomkins                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
All members present                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
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OVERVIEW(S):  DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
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OVERVIEW(S): DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
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WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
GARY FOLGER, Commissioner                                                                                                       
Department of Public Safety (DPS)                                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Presented an overview of the Department of                                                               
Public Safety (DPS).                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
TERRY VRABEC, Deputy Commissioner                                                                                               
Department of Public Safety (DPS).                                                                                              
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Gave a PowerPoint presentation during the                                                                
overview of the Department of Public Safety (DPS).                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
KELLY HOWELL, Director                                                                                                          
Division of Administrative Services                                                                                             
Department of Public Safety (DPS)                                                                                               
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered a  question regarding grants during                                                             
the overview of the Department of Public Safety (DPS).                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
KATHY LEA, Chief Pension Officer                                                                                                
Central Office                                                                                                                  
Division of Retirement & Benefits (DRB)                                                                                         
Department of Administration (DOA)                                                                                              
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Answered questions  during the  overview on                                                             
the Department of Administration (DOL).                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
AMY ERICKSON, Director                                                                                                          
Division of Motor Vehicles (DMV)                                                                                                
Department of Administration (DOA)                                                                                              
Anchorage, Alaska                                                                                                               
POSITION   STATEMENT:     Answered  questions   regarding  gender                                                             
identity and licensing  during the overview of  the Department of                                                               
Administration (DOA).                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SHELDON FISHER, Commissioner                                                                                                    
Department of Administration (DOA)                                                                                              
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:   Provided  a PowerPoint  presentation during                                                             
the overview on the Department of Administration (DOA).                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:04:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR BOB LYNN called the  House State Affairs Standing Committee                                                             
meeting to  order at 8:04  a.m.  Representatives  Keller, Kreiss-                                                               
Tomkins, Stutes, Talerico, Vazquez, and  Lynn were present at the                                                               
call to order.   Representative Gruenberg arrived  as the meeting                                                               
was in progress.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LYNN   introduced  the  committee  secretary   from  House                                                               
Records,  and then  he  asked  each member  of  the committee  to                                                               
introduce him/herself.  He related  the story of his gavel, given                                                               
to him by his maternal grandmother.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW(S):  DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY                                                                                      
           OVERVIEW(S):  DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:09:16 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  announced that  the first order  of business  was the                                                               
overview by the Department of Public Safety.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:09:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
GARY  FOLGER, Commissioner,  Department of  Public Safety  (DPS),                                                               
presented an overview of DPS.   He listed the following mottos on                                                               
which he  stands:  "In honor  there's hope"; and "The  only thing                                                               
necessary for  evil to triumph  is for  good men to  do nothing."                                                               
In response  to Chair Lynn,  Commissioner Folger said he  grew up                                                               
in Cantwell,  Alaska, went  to high school  in Heely  and Palmer,                                                               
and has served approximately 32  years as an Alaska State Trooper                                                               
- all of  that time in the  area of wildlife.   He indicated that                                                               
he  enjoys his  career and  serving Alaska.   He  said next  year                                                               
would   be  the   department's  seventy-fifth   anniversary;  the                                                               
department  is one  of the  oldest  in the  state.   He said  the                                                               
budget for  DPS is  just under  2.5 percent  of the  entire state                                                               
budget,  and the  department receives  about one  quarter of  one                                                               
percent  of capital  improvement  monies.   He  relayed that  DPS                                                               
employs approximately  885 full-time employees and  926 part-time                                                               
employees, many of whom are employed in the summer.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:12:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
TERRY VRABEC,  Deputy Commissioner,  Department of  Public Safety                                                               
(DPS),  stated   that  he  has   30  years'  experience   in  law                                                               
enforcement, having worked  in the Kenai Peninsula,  for the City                                                               
of Fairbanks,  and for the  University of Alaska,  including time                                                               
as the chief of police.   He indicated that a former commissioner                                                               
was  responsible  for  his involvement  with  the  Alaska  Police                                                               
Standards Council, and former  Commissioner Joe Masters appointed                                                               
him as deputy commissioner.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:13:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER VRABEC directed attention  to a hardcopy of a                                                               
PowerPoint presentation  [included in the committee  packet].  He                                                               
turned  to  page 2  of  the  PowerPoint,  which states  that  the                                                               
mission of DPS  is "to ensure public safety and  enforce fish and                                                               
wildlife laws."   The department comprises urban  and rural units                                                               
across the state  and offers the following core  services:  rural                                                               
law enforcement,  domestic violence and sexual  assault programs,                                                               
statewide  public  safety   programs,  resource  protection,  and                                                               
highway  safety.   He  directed  attention  to an  organizational                                                               
chart  on  page  3  of  the  PowerPoint,  which  shows  that  the                                                               
commissioner  oversees the  Division of  Administrative Services,                                                               
the  Division  of Alaska  State  Troopers,  and the  Division  of                                                               
Alaska  Wildlife Troopers.   He  related that  his job  as deputy                                                               
commissioner  includes  overseeing   the  Division  of  Statewide                                                               
Services, the  Division of Fire  and Life Safety, the  Crime Lab,                                                               
and [the Public Safety Academy] in Sitka.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:14:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LYNN asked  for further  information regarding  the Public                                                               
Safety Academy.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:15:07 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER FOLGER  said when the  economy "tanked" in  the mid-                                                               
1980s, the  department did  not hire many  troopers.   He relayed                                                               
that there  were about 40  trainees at the  academy in 1990.   He                                                               
stated that  "in this next year"  there are 61 troopers  that can                                                               
retire, and there  will be 51 state troopers that  can retire the                                                               
following year.   He said  DPS is at  a crossroads and  that "the                                                               
big  elephant in  the room  is the  budget."   The department  is                                                               
trying to  determine how many applicants  to pick up in  its next                                                               
training at the academy.  He  stated that the scary issue is that                                                               
out of  the 61 that  can retire, most  of them are  in management                                                               
positions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  emphasized his concern  and the importance of  DPS to                                                               
survival.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:16:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER VRABEC  said the  Public Safety  Academy not                                                               
only  trains troopers,  but also  trains local  officers, airport                                                               
police,  university police,  and park  rangers.   He acknowledged                                                               
that  Representative   Kreiss-Tomkins  had  delivered   the  last                                                               
graduation speech.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:17:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  FOLGER   answered  a   series  of   questions  from                                                               
Representative  Vazquez.   He estimated  that perhaps  30 of  the                                                               
aforementioned 61  troopers would  retire [as soon  as eligible].                                                               
He said there are approximately  378 troopers currently, and that                                                               
number has not changed much over the  last 20 years.  He said the                                                               
troopers  are taken  care of  in terms  of vehicle  and equipment                                                               
needs.  He  indicated that the needs of the  department depend on                                                               
many considerations.  He explained that  a lot of dollars go into                                                               
special training  in areas such  as child forensic  interview and                                                               
vehicle accident reconstruction.  He  indicated that that sort of                                                               
special training is sometimes expected during court proceedings.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VAZQUEZ  stated her desire  to see a  breakdown of                                                               
the  department's  personnel  needs.     She  imparted  that  her                                                               
experience as a prosecuting attorney  has shown troopers behaving                                                               
professionally, and  she said  she knows  the department  has not                                                               
really increased the troops out in the front line.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:20:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  FOLGER  responded to  a  series  of questions  from                                                               
Representative Gruenberg.   He said the  television reality show,                                                               
Alaska State  Troopers, initially increased the  number of people                                                             
interested in becoming a trooper;  however, the decision was made                                                               
to cancel the show because it had  "run its course."  He said the                                                               
department model  is similar to  that of Oregon;  however, Alaska                                                               
is unique  in its  geography.   He said  DPS worked  closely with                                                               
Washington and Colorado regarding a marijuana initiative.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  expressed  his desire  to  speak  with                                                               
Commissioner Folger  further in  order to  "not have  to reinvent                                                               
the wheel."                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:23:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LYNN  expressed  his  pleasure  in  having  Representative                                                               
Gruenberg back on the committee.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:24:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER   VRABEK,  in  response   to  Representative                                                               
Stutes,  confirmed that  Village Public  Safety Officers  (VPSOs)                                                               
receive their training  from the Public Safety  Academy in Sitka.                                                               
He mentioned  a bill that passed  in 2014 that would  allow VPSOs                                                               
to be  armed, and said the  department is working with  the first                                                               
group  that  would  be  transitioning into  that  capacity.    He                                                               
estimated that  currently there are  80 VPSOs, and said  there is                                                               
constant effort in recruiting people to become VPSOs.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:25:22 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER VRABEK  offered an  example of  a need  that                                                               
required specific  troopers to handle  a special assignment.   He                                                               
said it was  called the criminal suppression unit, and  it was in                                                               
response  to an  increase  in property  crimes  in the  Anchorage                                                               
valley.   He said any  special unit  that is formed  will require                                                               
extra resources.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:26:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER FOLGER,  in response  to Chair Lynn,  confirmed that                                                               
DPS has a  special intelligence unit that partners  with the U.S.                                                               
Department  of Homeland  Security and  other federal  agencies to                                                               
address potential  terrorism in Alaska.   He said it is  almost a                                                               
stand-alone unit within the Division of Alaska State Troopers.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LYNN expressed  his desire  for Alaska  to strengthen  its                                                               
defense against terrorism.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:28:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER VRABEC  indicated that  the special  unit is                                                               
made up of members of  the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI),                                                               
the  Anchorage  Police Department,  and  the  U.S. Department  of                                                               
Homeland Security.   He suggested  committee members may  like to                                                               
meet some of the members of the special unit.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:28:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER FOLGER added that the  room used by the special unit                                                               
is "wiretap-proof," and  he expressed his willingness  to show it                                                               
to members of the committee.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:29:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER  VRABEK said  the  department  holds a  high                                                               
standard for its troopers and  has a rigid screening and training                                                               
process.   He  said although  many  people may  be interested  in                                                               
becoming a trooper, some of  those people change their minds when                                                               
they  discover what  is involved  in training  for the  job.   In                                                               
response to  Chair Lynn, he said  the department does not  have a                                                               
reserve program.  He explained that  it would be difficult to put                                                               
someone  through that  kind of  training  to then  be in  reserve                                                               
status.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:30:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  FOLGER   addressed  page   6  of   the  PowerPoint,                                                               
regarding  the  Division  of   Alaska  Wildlife  Troopers,  which                                                               
includes  a Marine  Section and  an  Aircraft Section.   He  said                                                               
there are  about 40 vessels  larger than  20 feet in  length that                                                               
control  Alaska's waterways.    He said  fisheries  for crab  and                                                               
salmon allow the  department to patrol past  the three-mile limit                                                               
out to the  200-mile limit.  He noted there  are approximately 43                                                               
aircraft used within the department,  the bulk of which are super                                                               
cubs.   Other aircraft  used include  five helicopters,  two King                                                               
Air craft,  and about six  Cessna-type aircraft.  He  stated that                                                               
those are necessary  patrol vehicles for a state  that is largely                                                               
without road access.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:32:34 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER FOLGER, in response to Representative Kreiss-                                                                      
Tomkins,  confirmed that  DPS  does provide  air  support to  the                                                               
Office of the Governor.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:33:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER  VABREK directed attention  to page 7  of the                                                               
PowerPoint,  which  lists  information   about  the  Division  of                                                               
Statewide Services.   He  said the  division houses  many behind-                                                               
the-scenes staff  important to the  success of the  department as                                                               
well as other departments across  the state.  Included within the                                                               
division is  the Criminal Records &  Identification Bureau, which                                                               
houses the Alaska Public Safety  Information Network - used daily                                                               
to gather  information and a link  to the national system.   Also                                                               
found  within  the bureau  is  the  Alaska Automated  Fingerprint                                                               
Identification System, uniform crime  reporting, the sex offender                                                               
registry,  concealed handgun  permitting,  and computer  support.                                                               
In response to Chair Lynn,  he said current information available                                                               
from  a   person's  driver's  license   includes  not   only  the                                                               
information  on the  license, any  warrants for  arrest, and  any                                                               
other past  issues, but also  information on the  national system                                                               
about  a person's  activity  in any  other state.    He said  the                                                               
information is confidential  and secure; a trooper has  to have a                                                               
reason to  use the  system.  He  said depending  on connectivity,                                                               
the response  from the  system can  be available  in less  than a                                                               
minute.    He reported  that  the  bureau processed  over  62,000                                                               
fingerprint cards and over 70,000 criminal history records.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:37:04 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER   VRABEK,  in  response   to  Representative                                                               
Kreiss-Tomkins,  offered his  understanding  that the  fee for  a                                                               
criminal background check is $25.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER FOLGER,  in response  to a follow-up  question, said                                                               
he does not know how many $25  fees were collected.  He said, for                                                               
example, school bus drivers must  have a criminal history records                                                               
search performed.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER  VRABEK said there are  a considerable number                                                               
of requests  made because many  small business  employers require                                                               
background  checks.    In   response  to  Representative  Kreiss-                                                               
Tomkins, he  said he could find  out the exact number,  and added                                                               
he  thinks the  department is  trying to  cover its  costs rather                                                               
than make a profit.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:38:59 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER FOLGER added that the  automated finger print system                                                               
is "pretty amazing technology."                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:39:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VAZQUEZ commented  that  the criminal  background                                                               
checks are essential for many employees in the health sector.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:39:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER  VRABEK directed attention  to page 8  of the                                                               
PowerPoint,  which  addresses  the  Division  of  Fire  and  Life                                                               
Safety.  He  said the state fire marshal is  Kelly Nicolello, who                                                               
oversees  deputy  fire  marshals   throughout  the  state.    The                                                               
division  conducts training  statewide, develops  building codes,                                                               
and  does plan  reviews.   He remarked  that there  are a  lot of                                                               
agencies  and fire  departments in  Alaska.   He stated  that the                                                               
division   sometimes    sends   investigators   to    assist   in                                                               
investigations of fires.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER  VRABEK turned to  page 9 of  the PowerPoint,                                                               
which addresses  the "Scientific Crime  Detection Lab."   He said                                                               
the lab  receives evidence  from every  police department  in the                                                               
state.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:41:14 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  recognized there  was controversy  about the  cost of                                                               
running a  crime lab, but emphasized  that he has always  been in                                                               
support of the lab.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER  VRABEK responded  that some  departments are                                                               
not able  to cover  the cost, so  DPS tries to  help out  when it                                                               
can.   He stated that  in fiscal year 2014  (FY 14), the  lab had                                                               
received over 4,500 requests and  was able to complete over 4,200                                                               
of them.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:42:32 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN asked  if deoxyribonucleic acid (DNA)  is collected if                                                               
someone is convicted  or [charged] and whether the lab  has a DNA                                                               
library bank.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  FOLGER  answered  in  the  affirmative.    He  said                                                               
depending on the  circumstance or crime, that  DNA information is                                                               
added  into a  national database  called the  Combined DNA  Index                                                               
System (CODIS).   He said  most of  the DNA information  is taken                                                               
after conviction,  although there are some  parameters that would                                                               
set it  ahead of conviction,  for example, when CODIS  solved the                                                               
Bonnie Craig case.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:43:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER  VRABEK offered his understanding  that in FY                                                               
14, 735  requests [related to  DNA] were  made, and 632  of those                                                               
requests were completed.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:44:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  FOLGER,  in response  to  Chair  Lynn, said  it  is                                                               
difficult to think of an entity with which DPS does not partner.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN mentioned an incident  regarding the [Alaska] National                                                               
Guard,  and   said  it  seems   there  may  be  a   breakdown  in                                                               
communication between the military and local law enforcement.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER FOLGER  replied that there certainly  is a breakdown                                                               
in communication, and DPS is addressing the issue.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER  VRABEK  said   some  of  Alaska's  multiple                                                               
military   installations   may   fall  within   a   municipality;                                                               
therefore, it may not always be the troopers that investigate.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:45:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER  VRABEK directed attention to  page 10, which                                                               
addresses  the Division  of Administrative  Services (DAS).   The                                                               
division  oversees  several  areas,  including  finance,  budget,                                                               
human resources, and grants management.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:46:33 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER   VRABEK,  in  response   to  Representative                                                               
Gruenberg,  said  DPS  has  full-time  staff  looking  for  grant                                                               
possibilities.  He said there  are many factors in qualifying for                                                               
grants.  Further, he noted one  caveat is that the department may                                                               
receive money  through a grant, but  there is no guarantee  as to                                                               
the lifetime of that financial resource.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:49:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KELLY  HOWELL,  Director,  Division of  Administrative  Services,                                                               
Department of Public Safety (DPS),  in response to Representative                                                               
Gruenberg, said  the division has  three staff assigned  to grant                                                               
management.   She  said  they  make use  of  several systems  for                                                               
monitoring federal  grants to find  out when they  are available.                                                               
One  of those  systems  is  called "grants.gov."    She said  the                                                               
people in charge  of grants sign up for  notifications, which can                                                               
be tailored to  the type of grant  desired.  She said  DPS is the                                                               
state administrating agency for many  justice grants, such as the                                                               
justice  assistance  grant.    She said,  "We  retain  a  certain                                                               
portion  of  that,  as  well   as  sub-grant  out  to  local  law                                                               
enforcement  agencies and  other  agencies  for criminal  justice                                                               
purposes."  The  Council on Domestic Violence  and Sexual Assault                                                               
(CDVSA)  is  the  designated agency  to  receive  federal  grants                                                               
related to domestic violence, sexual  assault, and other victims'                                                               
services grants.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:51:17 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HOWEL,  in  response  to  Representative  Keller,  said  the                                                               
department was  asked to make  cut-backs, and it  considered that                                                               
request  an  opportunity  to increase  efficiency,  maximize  the                                                               
strengths of its employees,  consolidate services where possible,                                                               
and focus its finite resources  on its highest priority, which is                                                               
to provide  public safety to  the state.  She  said consideration                                                               
is being made  of vacant positions to determine  whether they are                                                               
critical.   The  department  is looking  at  certain services  it                                                               
provides  that may  not be  directly  related to  its mission  of                                                               
providing public  safety and  determine whether  it is  the right                                                               
department for  the service or  another department  or non-profit                                                               
agency  could take  it over.   She  said, "Everything  is on  the                                                               
table in terms of trying to identify ... efficiencies ...."                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:54:13 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER  VRABEK returned  to the PowerPoint,  to page                                                               
11, and  listed the three councils  overseen by DPS:   the Alaska                                                               
Fire  Standards  Council  (AFSC),  the  Alaska  Police  Standards                                                               
Council (APSC), and  CDVSA.  He said AFSC is  a newer council and                                                               
trains  and   certifies  fire  fighters  and   emergency  medical                                                               
technicians  (EMTs) across  the  state.   The  APSC oversees  the                                                               
certification  of about  3,000 police  and corrections  officers.                                                               
The CDVSA  has done  incredible work in  the state  with shelters                                                               
and grants.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY COMMISSIONER  VRABEK noted that  there are [pie  charts on                                                               
pages 12-15  of the  PowerPoint].  He  offered to  answer further                                                               
questions.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:56:02 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN expressed  the willingness of the  committee to assist                                                               
"the commission."                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:56:37 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  expressed  interested in  finding  out                                                               
whether the  department is  employing the  use of  more efficient                                                               
vehicles  for  emergency  response  whenever  full-size  vehicles                                                               
traditionally used are not necessary.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER VRABEK  said he  would check  with the  fire                                                               
marshal for information.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GRUENBERG mentioned Google  glasses - glasses that                                                               
are connected  to a computer so  that a doctor at  a hospital can                                                               
see what  is going  on in  an ambulance.   He suggested  it could                                                               
save lives in  remote areas where an ambulance cannot  make it to                                                               
a  hospital  quickly.   He  emphasized  the need  for  innovation                                                               
because of Alaska's small population,  lack of trained personnel,                                                               
and vast geography.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:59:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE KELLER  mentioned that the legislature  had passed                                                               
Senate  Bill 64.    He  then referred  to  [the "Transition  Team                                                               
Conference Report"]  and indicated  that the transition  team had                                                               
commented on criminal  justice reform and brought up  the idea of                                                               
resuscitating the Controlled Substances Advisory Commission.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:59:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DEPUTY  COMMISSIONER VRABEK  acknowledged that  he had  also read                                                               
that, but said  the department had not yet  spent time discussing                                                               
the issue.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:00:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRUENBERG  mentioned a  device  that  is used  to                                                               
allow ambulances  and fire trucks  to pass  through intersections                                                               
quickly, and said it was installed  in Anchorage a few years ago.                                                               
He offered his  understanding that police vehicles  could not use                                                               
the device because they move too fast.   He said he would like to                                                               
hear more about this topic.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER FOLGER  remarked that almost  every day there  is an                                                               
article in the paper mentioning a  state trooper.  He opined that                                                               
DPS  is an  important department,  and  he stated  that he  loves                                                               
serving  the  people of  Alaska.    He recognized  the  financial                                                               
challenges faced by the department  and expressed his willingness                                                               
to work together [with the legislature to find solutions].                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:01:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 9:01 a.m. to 9:05 a.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
^OVERVIEW(S): DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION                                                                                      
           OVERVIEW(S): DEPARTMENT OF ADMINISTRATION                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
9:05:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  announced that  the final order  of business  was the                                                               
overview from the Department of Administration.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:06:03 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  noted that a  previous member of the  legislature had                                                               
retired and lost his retirement  benefits because of "an error on                                                               
somebody's part someplace."   He said he would like  to know what                                                               
can be done to prevent that from happening in the future.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:06:48 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KATHY  LEA, Chief  Pension Officer,  Central Office,  Division of                                                               
Retirement & Benefits (DRB),  Department of Administration (DOA),                                                               
prefaced   her   response   by   explaining   that   because   of                                                               
confidentiality statutes, she could  not discuss the specifics of                                                               
the case  to which Chair  Lynn referred; however, she  offered to                                                               
speak  about  the issue  in  general  terms.   She  stated,  "The                                                               
pension plans  are set up  - barring  what happened in  2000 that                                                               
led us  to an unfunded liability  - to be self-sustaining."   She                                                               
reviewed that benefits are funded  by contributions to the system                                                               
by the  employer and employee,  and the investment income  on the                                                               
fund  is what  pays  for  "the lifetime  of  the  member."   When                                                               
benefits  are  paid, she  explained,  DRB  draws first  from  the                                                               
member's  contribution  account,  and then  from  the  employer's                                                               
investment income.   She said  because the system is  designed to                                                               
be  self-sustaining, it  has provisions  in it  for what  happens                                                               
when there are errors in the record.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LEA  said  AS  39.35.520-.522 covers  the  Public  Employees                                                               
Retirement  System (PERS)  and requires  the division  to recover                                                               
any overpayment  of benefits that  occurs because of an  error in                                                               
the  record  in  service  reporting,  salary  reporting,  or  the                                                               
computation  of  benefits.    In  response  to  Chair  Lynn,  she                                                               
clarified that  those errors could  be ones made by  the retiree,                                                               
by the employer that reports  the information to the division, or                                                               
errors that  are "made  in calculation."   She said  the division                                                               
has  a  fiduciary  responsibility,   as  well  as  the  statutory                                                               
requirement, to reclaim benefits when they have been overpaid.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. LEA  said there  are three  steps that a  member can  take to                                                               
have redress  from an overpayment.   There is a  waiver provision                                                               
at  the division  level contained  within AS  39.35.520(b).   She                                                               
recalled three of the four criteria  that the member must meet in                                                               
order to  qualify for the waiver:   He/she had no  way of knowing                                                               
the benefit was being paid in  error; he/she had not supplied the                                                               
division  with erroneous  information; the  overpayment had  been                                                               
paid for more than  two years.  If the person  does not meet that                                                               
criteria,  there  is  a  second   review  that  is  done  at  the                                                               
commissioner's  level.   She said  two  of the  elements are  the                                                               
same,  and  they  are  regarding   the  member  not  knowing  the                                                               
overpayment was being  made and not having  supplied the division                                                               
with  false information.   In  addition, when  the case  has been                                                               
brought to the commissioner's review,  the person must be able to                                                               
prove financial  hardship.  If  no waiver is granted  under those                                                               
two  provisions,  the  member  is given  appeal  rights  and  can                                                               
present his/her case.   If the decision does not  go in the favor                                                               
of  the member,  he/she  will be  awarded $1  in  benefit if  the                                                               
repayment is  more than what the  benefit is, and that  is so the                                                               
member's medical benefit can continue.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN surmised that a sudden  change to $1 a month from, for                                                               
example, $1,500 a month would constitute a financial hardship.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LEA  answered yes,  depending  on  what the  person's  other                                                               
assets are.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  opined that  this is  a real problem  and asked  if a                                                               
solution exists.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
MS. LEA  replied that  the provisions  are in  place to  keep the                                                               
system  whole.   If the  state  does not  collect overpayment  of                                                               
benefits,  then it  would be  adding to  the unfunded  liability.                                                               
She reiterated that there are three  levels at which a member can                                                               
present his/her  case for waiver,  and the overpayment  cannot be                                                               
waived if  he/she does not meet  that criteria.  She  stated that                                                               
the  independent  arbitrator  is  the  Office  of  Administrative                                                               
Hearings,  which  is where  the  member  can present  information                                                               
showing financial  hardship.   She said  the division  is charged                                                               
with  ensuring that  its members  receive every  penny they  have                                                               
earned and  accrued, but not  one penny more, because  the system                                                               
must be kept sound for the good of everyone in it.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
9:13:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. LEA,  in response  to Chair Lynn,  said cases  of overpayment                                                               
"to  this extent"  do  not occur  frequently;  however, she  said                                                               
there  were a  rash  of  cases several  years  ago that  occurred                                                               
because of a  benefit called the "level income  option," in which                                                               
the member receives the bulk  of his/her benefit prior to turning                                                               
sixty five, at  which point, when Social Security  begins to pay,                                                               
the  PERS pension  is reduced.   She  said a  computer conversion                                                               
resulted  in  the  division  missing  that  conversion  date  and                                                               
overpaying  those involved  for many  years.   When the  division                                                               
realized what  had happened,  it had  to go  back and  adjust the                                                               
benefits of all  those who were overpaid for several  years.  She                                                               
emphasized  that such  an occurrence  is unusual.   The  division                                                               
goes through  the three-step process,  at which time  the members                                                               
who  were   overpaid  had  their   redress.    She   offered  her                                                               
understanding that at  the time this occurred,  cases went before                                                               
the Public Employee Retirement Board,  and it was determined that                                                               
a  member had  reason to  know that  his/her retirement  would be                                                               
reduced, because  he/she had been  sent a letter to  that effect,                                                               
but had not notified the  division when the payments remained the                                                               
same.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. LEA  said there  are one  or two  overpayment cases  that the                                                               
division   addresses  every   month,  and   they  typically   are                                                               
overpayment  of Alaska  cost of  living  allowance (COLA),  where                                                               
people leave the state for more than  90 days and do not tell the                                                               
division.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN  asked if  there is  any way to  cover the  state with                                                               
insurance in  cases where it  was the state's  responsibility for                                                               
having made the overpayment and the  member was not aware that it                                                               
was happening.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
9:17:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LEA   answered  that   it  would  be   rare  for   the  same                                                               
circumstances  to come  up again  where there  was a  substantial                                                               
overpayment.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN remarked  that even though it may be  rare, the effect                                                               
on just one person is marked.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MS. LEA  said the division  makes a  great effort to  help people                                                               
who find  themselves in such  a situation  obtain a waiver.   She                                                               
said under  statute, overpayments can  be paid back in  two ways:                                                               
a lump  sum or through  the lifetime of  a person's benefit.   It                                                               
may  be  possible  for  the   division,  through  the  Office  of                                                               
Administrative  Hearings,  to accept  a  lesser  amount; in  some                                                               
cases, the  division will  allow the member  to make  payments so                                                               
that at some point his/her benefit is restored.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LYNN  opined  that  this  topic  was  too  complicated  to                                                               
continue during the  present overview; however, he  said he would                                                               
like to meet with the division to fix the issue.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
9:19:46 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS.  LEA,  in  response  to   Representative  Vazquez,  said  the                                                               
aforementioned  appeal  process  can   be  used  to  address  the                                                               
collection process, as well as to  determine the amount owed.  In                                                               
response to a  follow-up question, she added that  also during an                                                               
appeal,  the  member  can  challenge a  decision  that  was  made                                                               
regarding the situation not being a financial hardship.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:20:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
AMY  ERICKSON,  Director,  Division   of  Motor  Vehicles  (DMV),                                                               
Department  of   Administration  (DOA),  answered  a   series  of                                                               
questions  from  Chair  Lynn  regarding  gender  identity  as  it                                                               
relates  to  the   job  of  the  DMV  in   issuing  driver's  and                                                               
identification licenses.  She said a  person coming in to the DMV                                                               
to apply for  a driver's license or identification  for the first                                                               
time  would need  to provide  the  DMV with  his/her legal  name,                                                               
place  of birth,  sex, and  mailing address,  along with  showing                                                               
documentation such  as a birth  certificate or passport  in order                                                               
to acquire that identification.  She  said it has happened that a                                                               
person whose  identification showed  one sex has  relayed another                                                               
sex  to  the   DMV.    If  that  happens,  the   DMV  would  need                                                               
documentation  from a  healthcare  provider who  had changed  the                                                               
person's gender,  and the person  could provide an  amended birth                                                               
certificate or a new U.S. passport  that would show a new gender,                                                               
and the DMV would honor that.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LYNN asked  if  there was  one  particular situation  that                                                               
brought this issue to light.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MS. ERICKSON responded as follows:                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
     Back  in   2009,  a  case  involved   a  male-to-female                                                                    
     transgendered  person who  lived as  a female,  and her                                                                    
     passport  and  medical  certificate identified  her  as                                                                    
     female, and she applied for  an Alaska license, and her                                                                    
     designation was  male.  And  later, ...  DMV discovered                                                                    
     that  when  she  changed  her gender,  we  didn't  have                                                                    
     documentation  of   that  change.     So,  we   sent  a                                                                    
     cancellation of her license and  asked that she provide                                                                    
     documentation that said that she  had had surgery.  And                                                                    
     it  was determined  that that  was a  violation of  her                                                                    
     privacy  and  that  DMV   didn't  have  any  regulation                                                                    
     promulgated that  would allow us  to do that.   And so,                                                                    
     the  court ordered  that we  promulgate regulations  to                                                                    
     allow someone to change their gender.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. ERICKSON  said the  regulation was  changed within  180 days.                                                               
In response to Chair Lynn, she said that was in 2012.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LYNN asked,  "Is any  kind of  legislation appropriate  on                                                               
this subject in your mind, Ms. Erickson?"                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MS. ERICKSON opined that there is no need for legislation.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
9:25:45 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SHELDON  FISHER,   Commissioner,  Department   of  Administration                                                               
(DOA), began  a PowerPoint presentation.   He  directed attention                                                               
to slide 2 of the  PowerPoint, which illustrates the diversity of                                                               
the department,  and he  pointed out  that about  half of  DOA is                                                               
focused  on  the  public,  while  the  other  half  serves  state                                                               
agencies.   Commissioner Fisher said  he started  as commissioner                                                               
on Monday,  and he expressed  his hope that  he would be  able to                                                               
name deputies within  the next week.  In response  to Chair Lynn,                                                               
he said  he would be  happy to come  back to discuss  the subject                                                               
brought up  by the  chair during the  overview of  DPS, regarding                                                               
[the  method   by  which  the   state  recoups   overpayments  to                                                               
retirees].                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER FISHER said slide 3  shows that DOA serves virtually                                                               
all of  Alaska.  He  directed attention  to slide 4,  which lists                                                               
the following DOA services to the  public:  the Division of Motor                                                               
Vehicles; the  Division of Retirement  and Benefits  (DRB), which                                                               
manages not only  the health plan and benefits  for retirees, but                                                               
also  the health  plan for  active members;  the Public  Defender                                                               
Agency (PDA)  and the  Office of Public  Advocacy (OPA),  both of                                                               
which are  constitutionally mandated  to provide  public services                                                               
and have heavy caseloads; the  Alaska Public Offices Commissioner                                                               
(OPOC); the  Alaska Oil and Gas  Conservation Commission (AOGCC),                                                               
which does licensing  on behalf of the state  for the exploration                                                               
of  oil,  gas,  and  geothermal   resources;  the  Alaska  Public                                                               
Broadcasting  Commission  (APBC),  which administers  grants  for                                                               
public  radio  and  television;   the  Office  of  Administrative                                                               
Hearings,  which is  an appeal  agency staffed  by administrative                                                               
law  judges; and  the Violent  Crimes Compensation  Board (VCCB),                                                               
which administers some compensation to victims of violent crime.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER FISHER  listed the  following DOA services  to state                                                               
agencies, as  shown on slide 5:   the Division of  Finance (DOF),                                                               
which  provides  financial,   auditing,  payroll,  and  reporting                                                               
functions; the Division of General  Services (DGS), which focuses                                                               
primarily on management of the  state's buildings, as well as its                                                               
procurement  and   purchasing  process;  the  Division   of  Risk                                                               
Management  (DRM),  which  manages  any claims  that  occur;  the                                                               
Division  of  Personnel and Labor Relations  (DOPLR), which takes                                                               
care  of   human  resources   and  labor   relations;  Enterprise                                                               
Technology Services  (ETS), which  is the centralized  portion of                                                               
the IT  department; and the  Division of  Administrative Services                                                               
(DAS), which takes care of budgeting.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:30:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  FISHER brought  attention to  slide 6,  which lists                                                               
core initiatives  he identified  as being  largely driven  by the                                                               
impact on the  budget.  The first initiative  is personnel costs,                                                               
which include health  care, wages, and productivity.   He related                                                               
that  in  the  past,  he  has  had  some  success  in  increasing                                                               
productivity, and he stated his  intent to take a leadership role                                                               
in that function across the administration.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:31:50 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  FISHER,  in  response   to  Chair  Lynn,  gave  his                                                               
personal history.   He  said he  was an attorney  at law,  with a                                                               
focus on mergers and acquisitions  and contract law, primarily in                                                               
the telecommunications industry.  He  relayed that in some of his                                                               
former  positions  he  focused  on  initiatives  to  improve  the                                                               
delivery of services at a reduced  cost, and he stated that he is                                                               
looking  forward  to   doing  the  same  in   the  Department  of                                                               
Administration.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
9:34:09 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER FISHER  returned to slide  6 of the PowerPoint.   He                                                               
said the unfunded  liability will continue to be  a priority, and                                                               
he said  he thinks  there are  ways to  reduce health  care costs                                                               
further.   He stated that the  State of Alaska needs  to continue                                                               
to drive  down the cost  of procurement.   Currently the  cost of                                                               
procurement is $280  million.  He said the  department would like                                                               
to  improve   information  technology   (IT),  as  well   as  the                                                               
management of  space utilization.   He said he would  touch again                                                               
on the aforementioned points later within the overview.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:34:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER FISHER  directed attention  to slide 7,  which shows                                                               
in a  graph how the cost  of health insurance benefit  credit has                                                               
risen  over the  last ten  years.   He offered  his understanding                                                               
that the prior  administration was focused on this  issue and was                                                               
able to reduce the cost in the last [couple] years.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR LYNN noted  that there was a considerable jump  in costs in                                                               
FY 11, and he questioned what the cause may have been.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  FISHER responded  that there  was a  change in  the                                                               
third-party administrator at that time.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
9:35:39 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KREISS-TOMKINS  asked  how Alaska's  health  care                                                               
costs compare to the national baseline cost.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  FISHER   answered  that  he  does   not  have  that                                                               
information, but  the reduction in  costs was driven by  a couple                                                               
primary factors.   One is that Alaska expanded  its network, thus                                                               
gaining access  to a better network  of doctors at a  lower cost.                                                               
He estimated  that change has generated  approximately $50,000 in                                                               
savings.   Notwithstanding that, Alaska continues  to have fairly                                                               
expensive health care.   He said the  administration is examining                                                               
techniques that it could employ as  one of the larger health care                                                               
providers to bring more savings to the state.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
9:37:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER FISHER moved  on to slide 8,  which lists bargaining                                                               
contracts through DOPLR.   Under ["Contracts That  Expire on June                                                               
30,  2014"],  he  noted that  the  Marine  Engineers'  Beneficial                                                               
Association (MEBA) and  Masters, Mates and Pilots  (MMP) have not                                                               
been finalized;  therefore they  would still  exist.   From those                                                               
contracts  listed  [under  "Contracts  That Expire  on  June  30,                                                               
2015"], he  noted that Public  Employees, Local 71 (LTC)  and the                                                               
Teachers' Education Association of  Mt. Edgecumbe (TEAME) are two                                                               
contracts that  DOA will be negotiating  in the coming year.   He                                                               
said the  department has  a tentative  agreement with  the Alaska                                                               
Correctional Officers  Association.   He said the  contracts will                                                               
be important in  the process of looking for  savings and managing                                                               
labor challenges.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
9:38:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  FISHER  said slide  9  shows  a projected  "bubble"                                                               
increase in the number of retirees  over the next 70 years, which                                                               
he explained is  driven primarily by the number  of retirees that                                                               
will be "hitting  the system."  He said the  graph emphasizes the                                                               
urgent   need   to  reduce   costs   as   quickly  as   possible.                                                               
Commissioner  Fisher  directed  attention  to slide  10,  and  he                                                               
reviewed that the legislature had  approved a lump-sum $3 billion                                                               
payment into  the Public Employees  Retirement System  (PERS) and                                                               
the  Teachers Retirement  System  (TRS) to  help  drive down  the                                                               
unfunded liability.   Currently, he said, $2 billion  of that has                                                               
been  paid, and  he offered  his understanding  that the  last $1                                                               
billion would be  paid shortly.  He said the  payment has changed                                                               
the trajectory in  terms of the amount of  contribution the state                                                               
is  required to  make,  approximately $250,000  a year;  however,                                                               
that number is still "dramatic and substantial."                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER FISHER  showed slide 11,  regarding multi-department                                                               
contracts awarded by the Division  of General Services (DGS).  He                                                               
explained that the  contracts save the state  almost $60 million.                                                               
He  turned  to slide  12,  which  shows the  Integrated  Resource                                                               
Information System  (IRIS) that  allows DOA to  manage purchasing                                                               
across the state to validate and  ensure it is complying with the                                                               
large  contracts  and  getting  the   savings  it  expects.    He                                                               
indicated that  IRIS would be  incorporated into the  Division of                                                               
Finance  & Procurement  by the  summer  of 2015,  and into  Human                                                               
Resources and Payroll about a year later.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
9:41:00 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  FISHER  directed  attention   to  slide  13,  which                                                               
outlines  Enterprise Technology  Services  (ETS) and  Information                                                               
Technology  (IT) cost  issues.   He  explained  that currently  a                                                               
portion of the  IT function is centralized in ETS.   For example,                                                               
the  administration  spends  approximately  $218  million  on  IT                                                               
functions, and  about $38  million of  that is  within ETS.   The                                                               
department is currently working through  proposals - some of them                                                               
from the legislature  - to determine how to  improve IT services.                                                               
He   said   that   will  come   from   both   strengthening   the                                                               
centralization  function while  leaving  some flexibility  within                                                               
the organizations to ensure that their services are needed.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:42:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  FISHER,  in   response  to  Representative  Kreiss-                                                               
Tomkins,  said  he  would  be   taking  a  leading  role  in  the                                                               
determination, because he has worked  around technology enough to                                                               
have an understanding of the  issues surrounding it.  Further, he                                                               
said  he  intends  to   "leverage  capabilities"  throughout  the                                                               
organization.    He stated  his  intent  to bring  together  many                                                               
people to corroborate  and come up with a valuable  solution.  In                                                               
response to a follow-up question,  he confirmed that he has given                                                               
thought  to  a  centralized  function,   and  the  department  is                                                               
considering whether  it would be  appropriate to have  a cabinet-                                                               
level position to serve that function.   He stated that he thinks                                                               
a  centralization function  is necessary  in order  to provide  a                                                               
framework  and reduce  costs;  however, he  said  there would  be                                                               
areas where  the expertise should  remain in  certain departments                                                               
that know  their own needs.   He said DOA is  under obligation to                                                               
make a recommendation  to the legislature, and  he estimated that                                                               
it would have the information ready within a month.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:46:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VAZQUEZ brought  up two issues:   First, she noted                                                               
that when  she worked for  the commissioner of the  Department of                                                               
Health  and Social  Services  (DHSS), a  survey  conducted by  IT                                                               
showed that the Division of  Senior & Disability Services used 32                                                               
databases.   She suggested  that it  may be  fruitful for  DOA to                                                               
investigate and consolidate in that  area.  Second, she mentioned                                                               
the Medicaid system and said it  would be interesting to find out                                                               
why two contractors have failed in the last 15 years.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:48:27 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  FISHER,  in  response  to  Representative  Vazquez,                                                               
confirmed that the "FY 13" shown  on slide 11 was a typographical                                                               
error that should  instead read "FY 14."  In  response to another                                                               
question related  to slide  7, he  said the  State of  Alaska has                                                               
done  better than  the national  average in  terms of  increases;                                                               
however, "as  an absolute dollar  level," the State of  Alaska is                                                               
still higher  than the Lower  48.  He said  he does not  know how                                                               
the State  of Alaska's increases  or absolute numbers  compare to                                                               
other insurers  in the state, but  said he would look  into that.                                                               
He  said  personal  experience with  other  employers  in  Alaska                                                               
indicates that  "these numbers  actually look  pretty good  - for                                                               
Alaska."   He said  the State  of Alaska has  a problem  with the                                                               
cost  of health  care  [benefits],  and that  is  one area  where                                                               
improvement can be made.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  FISHER,  in  response  to  Representative  Vazquez,                                                               
acknowledged that security is a  huge issue; it is challenging to                                                               
balance  the need  for  security  with the  need  for access  and                                                               
flexibility.  He  said DOA is currently performing  a review, and                                                               
he does not have any  recommendations that vary greatly from what                                                               
is already being done.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VAZQUEZ  asked if  there  is  any way  DOA  could                                                               
coordinate  with other  state governments  in  terms of  security                                                               
practices.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSINER FISHER responded that that is a good suggestion.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE VAZQUEZ  stated that  although she  realizes there                                                               
needs to be  a central operation, she has  always appreciated the                                                               
availability  of  IT assistance  that  could  arrive within  five                                                               
minutes to solve a problem.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:53:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  FISHER concurred.   He  gave an  example of  having                                                               
shared datacenters as a way to  save money and have a more secure                                                               
system.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  VAZQUEZ  indicated  that IT  staff,  in  general,                                                               
serve the state well.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
9:55:12 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KELLER remarked  that the  database struggle  has                                                               
been  going  on for  a  long  time.   He  said  the concern  over                                                               
security has  slowed down  the centralization  of databases.   He                                                               
said  the Constitution  of  the State  of  Alaska guarantees  the                                                               
right  to privacy,  and  it  is the  job  of  the legislature  to                                                               
determine how that right will be upheld in statute.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
9:56:41 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER  FISHER  directed  attention  to  slide  14  of  the                                                               
PowerPoint, which addresses universal  space standards (USS) that                                                               
DGS has  been adopting in order  to reduce the footprint  of each                                                               
worker.   He reported  that the department  is "putting  a little                                                               
pause" on its efforts, because it  has received "a fair amount of                                                               
pushback from the represented workforce."   He indicated that DOA                                                               
wants to engage those people to  gain their input because it does                                                               
not want to spend money on a  new system and discover it does not                                                               
work.  He  said one of the  strategic objectives of DOA  is to be                                                               
more efficient in how it manages and leases its spaces.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
COMMISSIONER FISHER turned  to slide 15, which  shows the results                                                               
of the surveys  DOA regularly conducts to  determine the customer                                                               
service ratings of various elements  of service it renders within                                                               
certain divisions.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  LYNN  expressed his  appreciation  for  the overview,  and                                                               
asked  that  Commissioner  Fisher   follow  up  on  the  concerns                                                               
expressed by the committee.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
9:59:18 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
State Affairs  Standing Committee  meeting was adjourned  at 9:59                                                               
a.m.                                                                                                                            

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